3 May 2011

Busting the myths of the Alternative Vote

Andy Wimbush

Nic Marks
Founder of the centre for well-being

The Alternative Vote campaign has been dominated by vested interests, dirty politics and exaggerations from all sides. So how do the arguments of the campaigners really stack up?

On paper, it was a good thing: give people the chance to vote democratically about how they want to choose their representatives in the future. But I increasingly feel that the Alternative Vote campaign has shown British politics at its very worst. All I want to do is shout ‘shame on all of you’.

The campaigning leading up to the referendum on AV this week has become very dirty business indeed, dominated by vested interests. The very people who stand to benefit the most (or lose the most) are the ones leading the campaigns.  And of course there is the shamefully undemocratic way in which the referendum was negotiated – no public consultation, no review of all the options – instead just the offer of AV which anyone with the inkling of an interest in electoral reform will know is not proportional representation.

As statistician here at nef I find it so frustrating that the basic statistical implications of a switch to AV have simply not been discussed.  This has frustrated me so much that I have actually spent well over two weeks of my time this year (my own time with no funding!) designing and running simulations on the likely effects of AV on the results of general elections right back to Margaret Thatcher’s victory in 1979.  The results were published a few weeks ago for our report The Voter Power Index and showed that AV would mitigate some of the extremes of the First Past the Post (FPtP) system but it would in no way eliminate the problems. 

So consider this blog as a myth-busting blog as most of the ‘so-called’ facts being bandied about are certainly statistical exaggerations and many are simply un-truths. Below is a graph that summaries the changes to AV might have made in terms of the outcome of the 2010 general election.

Then let’s address some of the other so called ‘facts’.

  • AV will be fairer: well slightly but it is well short of being a fair system. The Conservatives and Labour between them got 65% of the votes cast in England, Scotland and Wales, yet ended up with 87% of the MPs.  Under AV this would drop to 82%. Meanwhile Liberal Democrats got 23% of the vote but only 9% of the seats – which would rise to 13% under AV.  So a small step but hardly a giant leap.
  • AV will allow parties to win from third or fourth place: theoretically possible but statistically unlikely – in our simulation of the 2010 election no candidate won from third place and only 41 seats had a winner from ‘second place’
  • AV will create more extreme results: In six out of the seven elections studied the working majority for the sitting government would have been reduced, only in the 1997 Labour landslide would the majority go up, even then by only 10 seats (from 157 to 167)
  • AV would always create coalitions: Only in the 2010 simulation did a coalition scenario emerge, all the other six simulations still showed working majorities.
  • AV would allow more extreme candidates to get elected: The British Election Survey taken immediately after the 2010 election asked a representative sample of voters how they would have voted using an AV system.  This survey categorically shows the opposite effect – second preferences moderate people’s voting – ie the second preference of, say, a BNP voter is likely to go to the more moderate UKIP, and the second preference of a UKIP supporter to the more moderate Conservatives.

So there are the facts as I see them. I think it is a great shame they haven’t been discussed more as the changes that AV might make are broadly measureable and so could inform the debate. The greatest shame, however, is that the British Electorate have not been treated with more respect by the politicians who hold the power.

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03 May 2011 at 13:09

Wendy Russell

I don't understand how you can use statistics from the last General Election to show what the results might have been under AV. It assumes people would have voted the same, surely, or have I misunderstood?

03 May 2011 at 13:24

Jonathan Wright

"The British Election Survey taken immediately after the 2010 election asked a representative sample of voters how they would have voted using an AV system." The results were from people asked at the same time they voted and given an option based on the proposed system.

03 May 2011 at 14:38

Neil

These conclusions do not appear to take into account how political parties may alter how they behave to take advantage of AV in an AV election. In fact they seem to rely on an unrealistic scenario where all election preparation is for a non-AV election and on the day, voters are asked what would happen If this were an AV election. Am I missing something?

03 May 2011 at 15:14

Anonymous

I would be interested to see what the statistics would have shown had people not voted tactically in the last GE.

03 May 2011 at 15:57

Paul Warren

The question "what would you have voted under AV" is only valid, surely, for those voters who actually understand AV. Since the tactical voting under FPTP is so complicated, most people seem to think that under AV it would be more complex still (the opposite is true) and therefore assume they will vote according to their current habits. But IMHO AV is a classic case proving that a game with simpler rules (FPTP) turns out to have more complex tactics - like comparing Go Moku with Chess.

03 May 2011 at 16:38

Nic Marks

No you are right - a simulation is precisely what it says it is - a simulation. AV would change how parties campaigned for sure - the British election survey - which is the best information there is available - suggested that 90% of people would have voted for the same party as their first preference using AV as they did with FPtP ... I think the simulation does howvever show the general landscape of how the changes woudl impact the outcomes ... Nic

03 May 2011 at 19:46

Clay Shentrup

You would probably be interested in Bayesian Regret calculations, showing the welfare-increasing effect of various voting systems, using objective economics. http://ScoreVoting.net/BayRegsFig.html

04 May 2011 at 07:36

Anonymous

There are some fair criticisms of the article here, but all in all this is the best attempt at some reasonable analysis over the whole AV issue I have seen and it is a rather sad reflection on our politicians that it comes from a researcher/journalist and not from them.

04 May 2011 at 14:56

@JohnstonLD

Excellent work I'm sure - from a statistician's point of view - and I understand your frustration, but you have totally missed the point: this whole affair is about the battle against vested interests that have distorted our voting system to the extent that at every general election each of the two major parties disdainfully ignore the wishes and votes of anyone whose first preference is not their own party. Of course the LibDems also have a vested interest, but anyone who is being discriminated against has a vested interest and it is disingenuous (my favourite word for this campaign) to suggest that that vested interest somehow invalidates their cry for fairness. For that is what the main gripe is and the fact that the No2AV campaign don’t understand why someone who might not benefit would support Yes2AV, speaks for itself. This article ignores the history of the battle for reform: it is naive to suggest that either of the two main parties would agree to a fair referendum on different voting systems when their power base would be eroded as a result. So any electoral change has to be clawed piece by piece from those clinging onto power. This is not about any difference to the results of elections over the years, it is not about statistics, it is about opening the eyes of the public to the way things could be; it is about making it clear what a discriminatory society we have become when it comes to democracy; it is about putting the heavy wheel of change in motion, so that given some momentum, future elections will include debate about the possibility of reform without all the obfuscation and mud-slinging we have seen this time, and future elections will engage more people with the hope that, even when their MP has a large majority, they can vote with their heart and their head, and both will be registered as part of the national will. I agree whole heartedly with your final point - lack of respect for the British Electorate - and that is unfortunately in-line with the lack of respect that the two main parties have for anyone that doesn't share their world view. But I am also disappointed that this blog is seen as some answer to the confusion that has been generated over the past few weeks. NEF is one of my favourite organisations but it is deeply disappointing that their contribution to the debate - if this is the official view of NEF - will have the effect of discouraging people from voting Yes and starting to move that wheel of change and instead they will either be voting No, because in their eyes it doesn’t really make a difference, or not voting at all, ‘a plague on both their houses’.

05 May 2011 at 03:26

Paulo Coimbra

I sincerely hope this article doesn't represent NEF's position on the electoral system's debate. We have grown used to NEF's progressive positions and it is deeply unexpected to find out that in such a sensitive issue the defended field is the conservative one. The current sistem isn't sufficiently open and democratic. It produces systematically majorities artificially amplified and without correspondence in terms of people's actual political will. To guarantee the electoral methodology's governability component, it sacrifices its democratic one to an unbearable limit. It is a dangerously closed system in which the power only can be successfully disputed by the very old establishment's forces. I presume however NEF's people knows very well what is at stake and being so I'd like to think that this article only reflects its author's legitimate but reactionary analyses.

05 May 2011 at 03:27

Paulo Coimbra

I sincerely hope this article doesn't represent NEF's position on the electoral system's debate. We have grown used to NEF's progressive positions and it is deeply unexpected to find out that in such a sensitive issue the defended field is the conservative one. The current sistem isn't sufficiently open and democratic. It produces systematically majorities artificially amplified and without correspondence in terms of people's actual political will. To guarantee the electoral methodology's governability component, it sacrifices its democratic one to an unbearable limit. It is a dangerously closed system in which the power only can be successfully disputed by the very old establishment's forces. I presume however NEF's people knows very well what is at stake and being so I'd like to think that this article only reflects its author's legitimate but reactionary analyses.

18 May 2011 at 21:22

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